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WTC Coin Sells/Buyer’s Challenge

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This Challenge comes from Marry Lewis to all buyers and sellers of WTC coins, she is ready to auction of two WTC coins a 2000 $1 Gem Uncirculated and a WTC $1 Silver 2001 Gem Uncirculated 100% of the proceeds from the Auction will go to the families of the victims of 9/11. She challenge all of us selling or buying WTC coins to donate at least one coin, and give the proceeds to the families of the victims. I think this is a great idea and I will list every Charity Auction on this site and keep it on the front page for all to see and bid on. Everyone that wants to join this charity drive please send me your E-bay link and I will post it in this article.

So what we are asking for is a bid on the charity auction where 100% goes to the victims family of 9/11 or put 1 WTC coins up for auction and give 100% to the WTC victims families. Lets get this thing going.... Email me your E-Bay Links.

Lewis Charity Auction on E-bay.

100 % OF PROCEEDS GOES TO UFA WIDOW'S AND CHILDREN FUND

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WTC 2 COIN SILVER SET**** SPECIAL EDITION****NO RESERVE

We need more people like this, donate to WTC victims today I have the information below for the the WTC charity.

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The 9-11 Quarter A Tribute

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In response to the terrorist attacks on September 11, patriotic collectors and a grading service joined forces to donate more than $40,000 to victims families.

By Mark Rush   Published in Numismatist

On Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 9:30 AM on the Professional Coin Grading Service web site’s (www.pcgs.com) U.S. Coin message board, DcamMike1 posted: [i]

“Turn on any news!” Moments later pmh1nic posted “It’s looking like a terrorist attack. I heard a report that both planes had been hijacked but no word on from where.”

These first posts about the terrorist attacks were followed by others throughout the day. Swiftly posters’ feelings turned toward sympathy for the victims of the attack. Mitchell Spivack (Mitch), whose PCGS board nickname is “wondercoin,” posted a message with the heading, “Auction: 2001 NY State Quarter PCGS-MS67 Proceeds to Fire Fighters”

“It is a tragic day in the history of New York and our great country. … I have a really high end 2001(p) New York State Quarter grading PCGS-MS67. The coin goes to the high bidder at midnight tonight Eastern Time. The winning bid money will be mailed directly to the New York City Fire Fighters who are risking their lives to save the victims trapped in the debris. … Bidding starts at $1.00.” This post lead to an endeavor that resulted in 100 NY State quarters being graded, numbered, and encapsulated by PCGS with a special insert. More importantly, it also resulted in over $40,000 donated to the UFFA Widows and Childrens Fund. This article tells the story of these “9-11 quarters.”

Mitch’s auction ran for 7 1/2 hours. By midnight Steve Heller, whose nickname is “RegistryCoin,” made the winning bid of $125. Twenty minutes afterward, Steve posted

“Put the coin up again, Mitch. I donate it to the forum for another go.”

This time Mitch put up the coin in an auction that was scheduled to last until Friday.

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On Wednesday, September 12, Mitch posted:

PCGS has just agreed to reholder this coin as the ‘911’ coin … PCGS also suggested they number this coin #1 and that I consider a series of 50 coins dedicated to the New York City Fire Fighters. …In the meantime, the winner of this auction closing Friday will receive this coin specially numbered ‘1’ with reference to ‘911’”

Immediately Mitch received a donation of 14 MS66 NY state quarters from an anonymous coin dealer who wanted the coins to be used as #2 - #15. The 9-11 coin project was off and running. Leading the endeavor were Mitch, Steve, who kept track of the coins’ owners, and cosmicdebris (Bill Hemenway), who kept track of the donations.[i]

Coin #1 received 27 bids in the three days it was up for auction. By Friday evening, Steve once again prevailed in a two-person bid off. For the same coin that he had three days ago donated to be auctioned a second time, Steve’s winning bid this time was $2,001. But on Tuesday, another collector, identified as “The Lake Tahoe

Interestingly, none of these three people have ever met another in person. All the communication has been done via the Internet and telephone.

Collection,” contacted Mitch and offered to buy the #1 coin for $2,250. Because this raised more money for the donation, Steve agreed. So the coin that initially sold for $125 wound up in The Lake Tahoe Collection for $2,250.

Seeing how well the auction for coin #1 was proceeding, Rick Montgomery, the then-President of PCGS, suggested to Mitch that the number of 9-11 quarters be increased from 50 to 100. Within a week, PCGS donated 50 MS65 quarters needed for coins #51 to #100 and helped locate some MS66 quarters.[i] Mitch found others searching through a bag he purchased. A few were purchased.

After coin #1 was sold, next up were coins #9 and #11, which were auctioned as a lot. RegistryCoin opened the bidding at $1,250. Within a few hours the bid was up to $1,400. The bidding crept higher until Bcsican won the coins on Sunday with a bid of $1,700.

Some PCGS board members posted concerns that they would be unable to buy any of these special coins because of the prices the coins commanded. By noon on Saturday, Mitch, conferring with Mr. Montgomery, decided to price coins #78 though #92 at $175 per coin, to be sold to whomever wanted to buy one.[ii] Within 20 minutes, Flying56eagle purchased coin #91. And within 4 hours all 15 coins had been purchased, many for more than the posted $175 price. The immediate sell out established a pattern: Low numbered and special numbered coins were auctioned while higher numbered coins were offered for a fixed price.[iii]

The first encapsulated 9-11 quarters were given to Mitch on Tuesday, September 18. Mitch sent a scan of the coin to cosmicdebris who posted the scan of coin #1 in its special 9-11 PCGS holder. Buyers of the 9-11 coins knew that PCGS would encapsulate the coins using a special PCGS insert. Remarkably, by the time the scan was available and posted, well over half of the 9-11 coins had been sold even though the donors had no idea what the insert would look like. The insert features a U.S. flag background with four lines of text: The first line has on it PCGS and the grade, for example “PCGS MS 66.” The second line identifies the coin as “NY Firefighters 9-11” and the third line states “PCGS Limited Edition”. The fourth line has the coin number, for example “#10/100”.[iv] The concept of the U.S. flag was developed by Miles Standish, the then-Vice-President of PCGS, who suggested using this insert for the 9-11 coins.

Not all the 9-11 coins were purchased by the members who received them. Flying56eagle (Ron Gue) and merz2 (Donald Merz) arranged for donations so that some of the coins could be given to other board members. They received enough donations so that three 9-11 quarters were donated: one to a PCGS board member who was unemployed at the time and two to young numismatists who were active participants on the PCGS board.[v] Also two of the quarters were given to board members who lost a family member in the terror attacks. Gerry, who lost a son, received coin #44 and Clevegreg, who lost a brother, received coin #59.

The PCGS board has hundreds of participants, covering a wide spectrum of beliefs. So, some of the posts and threads about the 9-11 quarters were negative. However, the negative posts were few and were vastly outweighed by the positive posts. Most board members adopted Mitch’s philosophy, eloquently expressed in a post he made on September 25:


The grades on the 100 coins vary. Coin #1 is graded MS67, coins #2 through #50 are MS66, and coins #51 through #100 are MS65.

Based on auction results, at the time the price of a PCGS encapsulated MS67 NY State quarter ranged between $130 to $150.

Coins #74 through #65 were $200; coins #64 through #60 were $250; coins #58 though #51 were $325; coins #49 through #45 were $350; coins #44 through #40 were $375; coins #39 through #35 were $400; coins #34 through #30 were $425; coins #29 through #26 were $450; and, coins #25 through #20 were $475.

A few months after the 9-11 coins were created, PCGS issued a limited series of New York state quarters graded and encapsulated in a holder with the American flag background. These were given to collectors who joined the PCGS Collector’s Club and have nothing to do with the 9-11 coin project. These coins, too, had four lines of text. The major difference is in the second line of text, which identifies the coins as “PCGS Collector’s Club” rather than “NY Firefighters 9-11” as on the 9-11 coins.

Don’s (Merz2) low-key assessment of his and Flying56eagle’s efforts typifies the generosity of spirit that existed throughout this endeavor: “What he and I did was done by many Americans, in their own way, all across our great nation.”

THIS IS NOT ABOUT GETTING A COIN IN SOMEONE'S COLLECTION.-THIS IS ABOUT RAISING AS MUCH MONEY FOR THE WIDOWS AND CHILDREN OF SLAIN FIREFIGHTERS AS WE CAN.

The auctions and sales continued until October 18, when Steve posted a simple message:

Closed. Thank you very much for your positive participation.

On October 22, Mitch posted a message from the UFFA Widows and Childrens Fund:

Subj: Thank-you on behalf of the Fire Fighters

Date: 10/22/2001 11:18:12 AM Pacific Daylight Time

On behalf of the Executive Board and members of the New York State Professional Fire Fighter's Association, Inc. I thank everyone who purchased a coin whose proceeds will go to the Uniformed Fire Fighters Association Widows and Children's Fund.

Sincerely,
Charles J. Morello

President

Collectively the members of the PCGS board contributed $42, 897.07 to the UFFA Widows and Childrens Fund. Steve Heller’s summary of his part in this venture is to the point: “I haven’t ever done anything else so ‘appropriate.’ All the forum members made it possible and all should have an everlasting pride.” Mitchell Spivack says, “Everyone helped out with this great deed and everyone who contributed will remember this forever. But what we gave was a small gesture compared to what the firefighters sacrificed.”

 

[1] Posters on the board use nicknames, such as DcamMike1. To keep with the spirit of the board, for the most part I identify participants using their nicknames.

[1] Interestingly, none of these three people have ever met another in person. All the communication has been done via the Internet and telephone.

[1] . The grades on the 100 coins vary. Coin #1 is graded MS67, coins #2 through #50 are MS66, and coins #51 through #100 are MS65.

[1] Based on auction results, at the time the price of a PCGS encapsulated MS67 NY State quarter ranged between $130 to $150.

[1] Coins #74 through #65 were $200; coins #64 through #60 were $250; coins #58 though #51 were $325; coins #49 through #45 were $350; coins #44 through #40 were $375; coins #39 through #35 were $400; coins #34 through #30 were $425; coins #29 through #26 were $450; and, coins #25 through #20 were $475.

[1] A few months after the 9-11 coins were created, PCGS issued a limited series of New York state quarters graded and encapsulated in a holder with the American flag background. These were given to collectors who joined the PCGS Collector’s Club and have nothing to do with the 9-11 coin project. These coins, too, had four lines of text. The major difference is in the second line of text, which identifies the coins as “PCGS Collector’s Club” rather than “NY Firefighters 9-11” as on the 9-11 coins.

[1] Don’s (Merz2) low-key assessment of his and Flying56eagle’s efforts typifies the generosity of spirit that existed throughout this endeavor: “What he and I did was done by many Americans, in their own way, all across our great nation.”

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PCGS WTC Coins Time Line

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  • 11 September 2001, one of the worst days in American history next to the attack of Pearl Harbor December 7, 1941.
  • 11 September 2001, the New York State Quarter 9-11 Firefighters coins are made with the special flag inserts. The New York State Quarter 9-11 Firefighters coin project was started at the PCGS Collectors Universe Forum by PCGS authorized dealer Mitchell Spivac and members of the Collectors Universe Forum forum. 100 numbered coins were finally completed with the help of PCGS. The US Flag insert used with the coin was designed by Senior Vice President of PCGS Miles Standish. 100% of the proceeds are donated to the Uniformed Firefighters Association (UFA) Widows and Children’s Fund. The auction of the 100 coins (numbered 1 thought 100) raised well over $42,000 thousand dollars. 9-11 quarter full story
  • 1 November 2001 the workers at Ground Zero in New York reach the Iron Mountain Vault.
  • 1 November - 1 December 2001 Coins are sent to Collectors Universe for certification. Collectors Universe does not grade coins so the coins are only certified and sonically sealed as "Gem Uncirculated" The initial sale of these coins is advertised by only a few authorized dealers which state that a portion of the proceeds from the sale of these coins would be donated to the relief fund set up for the victims of September 11, 2001.
  • 1 December 2001, PCGS gets into the picture and starts grading coins from ground zero. The coins being holdered by PCGS receive the respective grade and then are sonically sealed with a bar coded certification number. On some of the coins, the bar code is hidden behind the PCGS hologram.
  • January 2002-June 2002, PCGS continues grading the different coin recovered as ordered by the “Originators” Coins encapsulated were gold, platinum, silver, copper etc. etc. Some coins were paired up in special sets with limited edition markings such as the 1 of 1000, 1 of 1140 etc. etc. Coins from approximately 10 different countries were recovered and authenticated, some with very low populations as stated on the certified holder.
  • January 2001- 2004, collectors start to include World Trade Center Recovered coin into their registry sets although they are not recognized as WTC pieces when the certification number is looked up in the PCGS data base.
  • January 2002 – Present, the controversy surrounding the WTC recovered coins has the numismatic community split up. Some collectors love the coins and consider them invaluable pieces of American history while others hate them with a passion and refer to them as "death coins".  In the meantime, the WTC coins continue to increase in value as other similar non WTC PCGS certified coins of the same year trade for considerable less.

One last we would like to mention is that these coins are not for everyone! We respect everyone else’s opinions, point of views and we hope that you do the same for everyone else too? If you are of the opinion that these coins should not be sold for a profit because of where they came from, that is your opinion and we respect it. However, to us, they are priceless and we will proudly display them for all to see no matter who buys or sells them.

“We Will Never Forget”

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