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1983 1 OZ KRUGERRAND WTC

1983 1 oz Krugerrand

The 1983 1 oz kruggerand wtc

It does not happen often that I find a coin from the world trade center vault that is not in my collection but today there was one. This 1983 1 oz Krugerrand was not in the collection on this website. Again as with many of the other coins I just know that it has been certified PCGS Ground Zero Recovery coin. But how many are out there of this 1983 gold coins is not certain. The seller on ebay is having at a Buy it now for $1500 but remember with the Krugerrand coins they are not .999 like the US eagles and gold coins they are .917 but still its now a historic coin and its for sale if anybody are out there collecting the South African WTC coins. Link here

Finding the whole set 1983 1 oz gold being one of them

How many gold kruggerands where there under the world trade center? how many different years, this is the 1983 1 oz gold coin but where there other coins still not seen here on the wtc911coin.com or other places. I will keep looking at Ebay for answers. The 1983  1 oz gold coin what a beauty

Just Found this $5 2001 on Ebay | wtc $5 2001

For anybody that does not have a $5 2001 MS69 WTC in their collection there is one on Ebay right now at a great price.

This hard to find 2001 WTC coins is up for sale now with a buy it now price of $590, normally you don’t find the 2001 MS69 below $900 so it sounds like a great deal.

Here is the link to the auction Action link

WTC 2001 Full Set MS69

So just have to write this post as its the first time that I have seen the full gold set of WTC gold eagle from 2001 for sale at one time on Ebay. Here are the pictures of the gold coins and below you will find the coins on ebay.

So if you wanted to buy the full WTC gold eagle set from 2001 today and had to buy it with BUY IT NOW offers to each seller the full set would cost you $11,499.98 this is not a bad price for the full set of WTC 2001 MS69 Gold eagle coins.[phpbay]wtc 2001 gold, num, “”, “”[/phpbay]

PCGS Answers Questions About WTC Coins

So I talked this week to PCGS and to Ken from Blue Moon coins. I just had a few questions for Ken about the 1989 $1 silver wtc coins but PCGS I had  a lot of questions for them. I got on the phone with a very very nice rep. his name was peter I think his extension is #293 when you call in. He was a go getter and he of course did not know the answers to all my questions, but he did research on it and call me back. I love PCGS they are a very professional company to deal with. So here are the answers peter gave me on my questions.

1. Does PCGS have population numbers on some WTC coins?

Answer: Yes, coins with a bar code on the front is in their system and population numbers on those coins are available. In the start the coins where grade in this way, but soon PCGS reallized that some years did not have very many coins in them and to not make the coins to unique or value driven because of their low population numbers PCGS decided to not keep track of the rest of the WTC coins.

Now here are 2 coins that has a serial number on the front.

Now the 1989 silver dollar has serial number 69826.69 (.69 being the grade) so serial number 69826 and when looking the coin up at PCGS it comes back with 11 coins in MS69 and variety WTC. The other coin has serial number 9958.70 (.70 being the grade) again this coin comes up with 3 coins in the MS70 grade. So if anybody is sitting with coins that has a bar code in the front, send me pictures and I will post the population numbers.

2. Now does this mean that their could be other 1989 MS69 coins out there with out a bar code on the front ?

Answer: well yes but I don’t know as PCGS has no record of coin without a bar code in the  front.

3. Can I have a list or report on all the coins that PCGS has on record with a bar code on front

Answer: After talking to the person in charge of that coins series, we do not have a record like this but any code with a bar code on front will work in the population look up tool on the PCGS website.

So I show Peter the page wtc911coins.com and he was quite impressed and I think we can count on him for more information if he has any. If anybody has more burning questions I will be happy to talk to him about it.

No to the conclusion of what he said I take it that some coins are registered with the bar code and we can find numbers on them, but more coins not registered could surface and they just don’t know one way or the other. I am however glad to know a little bit more about the WTC coins than I did before I talked to Peter from PCGS.
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PCGS Error On Slabs from WTC

So I think I have talked about the error’s that PCGS made on some of the slabs that has the WTC coins in them, just got another examplet that comes from Bobby he has two coins both in the 1 of 1ooo series. As you can see on these pages the 1 of 1000 series should be a 1 oz silver coin MS69 from 2001 and a 1999 1/4 gold eagle also MS69. Well Bobby is sending me a picture of 2 coins both WTC 2001 1 oz silver coin but have a look at the flag insert on the coins.

Both coins have the 1 of 1000 on them but one is MS69 the other is Gem Uncirculated. I wonder if more coins like this is out there. As always please send me pictures of coins that are special in some way or not posted on these pages as I want all the WTC coins to be up here at some point. I am not sure what to think about this coin, as with other coins we have seen from the WTC coin collection it did look like PCGS was ina bit of a rush when grading the coins. As Bobby points out the coin graded Gem Uncirculated is from Collectors Universe as can be seen on the back of the coin and we know that Collectors Universe parent company to PCGS did all the early grading and only certifed coins as have come from the WTC vault but never grade anything with MS eventhough some of the Gem coins they certified looks good enough to be MS material. So that could be a possible explaination that this coin was a coin that got graded right before PCGS took over. Another possible senario could be that some coins graded in the 1 of 1000 series was all graded at first by collectors universe and was later send back for MS grading at PCGS this one for some reason did not make it back. This could be confirm if all other coins in the series all where grade by PCGS ( look at the back)

Many other possible reasons but that is what I could come  up with from what I know about the coins.

Here is the back image of the two coins.

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